Adam

Here are links my posts about Adam. Was he the very first man on the earth? Or was he just a regular Homo sapien called to do a great work?

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  1. I know where Adam & Eve’s Mummified Re-main’s are, I live just below them and have everything Scientifically Verified.

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    1. I do believe in the Fall, but perhaps not in the way most people do. I think the Garden of Eden story is largely metaphorical/symbolic/mythological. That doesn’t mean I think Adam and Eve were a myth, but that perhaps their story got woven into mythological tales. I see the Garden of Eden as a story about our pre-mortal life where we all chose in some way to “Fall” down to earth and experience the messiness of mortal life. We all chose it, didn’t we–just as Adam and Eve chose it for themselves? There’s even a scripture where God says He gave mankind their agency “in the Garden of Eden”; and if you remember, in the Grand Council we all had agency and freedom to choose our path. Some interesting interpretations of the Fall include it being our ancestors’ transition from the fruitful trees to the meat-filled open savanna, and/or the transition from roaming hunter gatherers to sedentary farmers. All of these, including our birth here, were Falls from a higher, more blissful state to a lower, more telestial state. But those are my thoughts at the moment. What do you think about the Fall, Logan?

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      1. Can’t say that I’m too sure right now… I feel that all the scriptures, O.T., N.T. BoM, and PoGP all seem to make it clear that this Fall happened, and the stories are for the most part syncronized in how it happened. I definitely believe in evolution, and it’s been hard for me to see how, with scripture, we can take a non literal standpoint. After Joseph Smith and the temple, we have 4 creation stories. And all seem pretty clear that a literal Fall happened. Going into Paul’s teachings, by one man all fell, and by Christ all are redeemed. I cannot seem to find an equilibrium in my mind, I’m not sure if I’m missing something. For that reason I thought I’d ask:) Thank you!

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      2. I’m also thinking about the scriptures in D&C where the brethren have visions of the spirit world or celestial kingdom and see father Adam… It’s scriptures like those that make it seem like we must believe in a literal Adam and Fall, or else they wouldn’t have seen him… hope that makes sense as well!

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      3. I agree that the revelations do heavily support a literal Adam, and I do think there was a literal Adam, but I don’t think the Garden of Eden story is 100% literal. I think one way to look at the Fall is us Falling from our premortal state to this earth. Adam and Eve, in this view, are showing us in the temple/Genesis drama why we all Fell—to experience joy, sadness, pain, etc—things necessary for our progression. With Falling comes the potential to rise even higher, hence we all Fell, IMO.

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  4. “I see the Garden of Eden as a story about our pre-mortal life where we all chose in some way to “Fall” down to earth and experience the messiness of mortal life.”

    That’s they way I see it too. IMO, Adam and Eve (in the garden story) though real individuals, serve as archetypal characters that represent their entire family–all of us. And the whole garden story is really more analogical than mythical–IMO. It deals with real people, places, times, and events. But inasmuch as it is rather “otherworldly” from our perspective down here in the trenches of mortality it must come to us in symbols. Otherwise the whole thing would be so abstract that we’d hardly know how to appeal to Deity for enlightenment on the subject.

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    1. Jack, I like what you said about the story needing to be given us “in symbols”. I completely agree with that. The more I study the scriptures, and more specifically the words spoken by the Lord, the more I see that, while much of it is literal, it’s all symbolic. There are many many layers deep to go into any story. Some are types and shadows of what’s to come. Some are parables–I often think of when Jesus told His disciples why He speaks in parables, and I think, “He ALWAYS speaks in parables.” Haha, don’t know if that’s true, but I believe it is to some extent.

      You said somewhere else that Adam was your favorite subject. What do you think about Adam? Real, historical figure? And when did he live?

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      1. Yes–I love the subject of Adam and Even–the whole garden story really.

        Adam and Eve are definitely real individuals. And they stand at the head of their family as an high priest and priestess. Even so, as the governing matriarch and patriarch they represent their family as archetypes on an individual level as well as collectively. We see this sort of pattern in the House of Israel. Israel, who is Jacob, is analogous to Adam, who is Michael. Both are the third great patriarch in their respective lines. And from both spring their respective families that carry on their names as individual and collective identities. Israel is both the man or an individual or the entire people that is known by that name. Just as Adam is both the man or an individual or the whole of humanity–mankind.

        That said, the Gods have their reasons for assigning the same names to both individuals and families of individuals. And as it relates to the garden story–I think it’s important to remember that the name Adam applies to both himself–the man Adam–and to his entire family. And so, when we look at the garden story what we see is Adam as an archetypal character acting out a narrative that pertains to all of us. And when Eve enters the scene she becomes the archetypal character acting out the part of the narrative that pertains to all women.

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